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Gardiner’s entire Switch Theory emanates from a single event in the life of RMS Olympic. As a publicity stunt the White Star Line timed the start of this first voyage to coincide with the launch of Titanic. Was she sunk in ww 1, or scrapped? Thanks for clearing this up.
Studies show that the damage came closer to $75,000 which the company could easily afford. If Gardiner is to be believed and only the White Star inspection found the damage to the keel then there is two points to be considered.
This would mean that White Star’s insurer Lloyds would not pay out for the damages to Olympic and the total cost had to be shouldered by White Star Line. The collision between HMS Hawke and RMS Olympic on the 20th September 1911 and the allegation that it was more serious than the board of trade or the admiralty admitted to. (It was bought out by Yahoo.) Judging from damage reports that I saw in the enquiry report and testimony, the damage was not sufficient to flood the after passenger quarters. In truth the company had experienced its highest profits during the 1911 financial year of just in excess of $1 million.But ignoring this evidence the argument goes that the White Star board of directors saw this as a cost that they could ill afford and decided to set up an insurance scam by rebadging the almost complete Titanic as Olympic and sinking her on her maiden voyage thus being able to claim the full insurance pay out for a brand new ship rather than one that had been in service for a year. I heared that when the olympic rammed the hawke 2 of the wt compartments flooded. Anyway it mentions a cruiser called Yep, it's the same Hawke. Did it occur to you or Commander Blunt as far as you knew to say something of this sort, “This thing is unfortunately missing, it is fresh in my memory, I will do my best to reproduce the book.” Folks, thank you so much for you all your help and my apologies for vanishing as soon as I'd asked the question! I’m being a complete moron, just like you. Good point on working out the required penertration ,but the front of the hawke does look well smashed.
Say like the aft G deck cabins?I believe some of the crew quarters flooded, and the damage did reach some of the passenger compartments, including that of one of the band members who would later serve and die on board Titanic.
For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Claim is that “The impact with HMS Hawke’s caused $125,000 of damage to Olympic including bending her keel meaning she would fail any future board of trade inspection.” On commissioning, Hawke joined the Mediterranean Fleet, remaining on that station for most of the rest of the decade. Did any of the passenger arreas expirience flooding. As to whether his room actually flooded or not, I do not know, but his and some other cabins recieved damage.
Intresting piece with some good points.Thank you for your comment. I wonder who was master of the olympic at the time? Yet even if somehow it did occur there are still 49 further allegations that can be easily disproved. As part of the process three separate investigations were conducted of the damage to Olympic, one by White Star, one by the Board of Trade and one by the Admiralty which resulted in the following damage being reported.“Two major watertight compartments were flooded, hull plating gashed from the Orlop deck to E deck, and the starboard propeller shafting damaged.”Note there is no mention of any damage to the keel.
This finding was contrary to eye witness testimony and the arguments of White Star and seen as an attempt at saving face for the admiralty which had been humiliated by the accident. One a complete lack of competence from the Board of Trade and Admiralty inspectors which White Star could have exposed in the press resulting in the same pay out, or a bribe from White Star to silence these organisations which as aforementioned would be pointless if they could have forced a pay-out from the admiralty and kept two ships in service rather than one.Furthermore measurements of the Hawkes ram and the accusation by Gardiner that her eight foot penetration into Olympic was sufficient to bend the keel do not add up. Following completion, Olympic started her sea trials on 29 May 1911 during which her manoeuvrability, compass, and wireless telegraphy were tested. The Claim is that It was common practice in Britain at the time that every incident which included a Royal Naval ship was investigated by the Admiralty. And therefore would be declared unseaworthy. The collision between HMS Hawke and RMS Olympic on the 20th September 1911 and the allegation that it was more serious than the board of trade or the admiralty admitted to. I did a little net search and found this article at i have a post card of the Olympic/ Hawke collision, plus several others including its launch at Harland and Wolfe.... are these of any value?
Beware of the Geocities links since Geocities itself no longer exists.
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